transpute 2 days ago

"Xfinity using WiFi signals in your house to detect motion" (2025), 500 comments, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44426726

"How Wi-Fi sensing became usable tech" (2024), https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/02/27/1088154/wifi-sen...

  There is one area that the IEEE is not working on, at least not directly: privacy and security.. IEEE fellow and member of the Wi-Fi sensing task group.. the goal is to focus on “at least get the sensing measurements done.” He says that the committee did discuss privacy and security: “Some individuals have raised concerns, including myself.” But they decided that while those concerns do need to be addressed, they are not within the committee’s mandate.
2021 privacy comments on Wi-Fi 7 standards work for IEEE 802.11bf, https://arxiv.org/pdf/2103.14918.pdf

> it has been shown that SENS-based classifiers can infer privacy-critical information such as keyboard typing, gesture recognition and activity tracking ... since Wi-Fi signals can penetrate hard objects and can be used without the presence of light, end-users may not even realize they are being tracked ... individuals should be provided the opportunity to opt out of SENS services – in other words, to avoid being monitored and tracked by the Wi-Fi devices around them. This would require the widespread introduction of reliable SENS algorithm for human or animal identification.

Would this require a worldwide database of biometric signatures for each human that opts out?

physarum_salad 2 days ago

Release papers to show Chinese we also have this idiotic technology...then crucially...don't use it on our own populations?

  • lawlessone 2 days ago

    You might need to rephrase what you are saying.

    Some people have flagged your post , but i think its just translated wrong?

  • pinkmuffinere 18 hours ago

    Sorry can you restate this? Are you saying countries should spy on their citizens more?

jonahbenton 2 days ago

Whoa. EU is going to LOVE this /s

  • nope577 2 days ago

    Makes police raids for wrongthink much easier if the dissident used a public wifi.

    • transpute 2 days ago

      Passive WiFi radar does not require the subject to connect to WiFi.

      WiFi passes through many walls, floors and ceilings and those reflections can be used for human identification.

      • DANmode a day ago

        "Ambient WiFi RF displacement"