Ask HN: Why aren't we fighting email spam more effectively?

8 points by outcoldman 3 days ago

I own a few businesses and receive daily emails from (a) hiring agencies, (b) investment firms, and (c) companies selling “user data” (e.g., Docker users, Apple users, etc.).

None of these emails are CAN-SPAM compliant (in the USA). I started looking into whether it’s even possible to report these violations, but it seems like ICANN doesn’t really care. They only enforce abuse forms/emails with domain registrars when spam includes phishing or other specific violations.

Have we just given up on fighting spam? Is it because we allow cold sales outreach to continue unchecked?

terminalbraid 3 days ago

I use https://acidtool.com/ to report unwanted email directly to the email providers.

I'm not surprised ICANN isn't going to generally care about US law enforcement on email content. If they are CAN-SPAM violations, you'd have better luck reporting violations to the FTC (this is their legal mandate to deal with)

https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

jfengel a day ago

I dunno what you're using, but GMail is doing great for me.

The vast majority of the truly crappy spam just gets dropped on the floor. Practically none of it gets into my actual inbox.

My spam folder gets about 1 message per day. About half of it is well and truly spam. The other half is more-or-less legitimate mass email, and I unsubscribe to them when I notice them.

The emails you're describing sound like cold calls from companies that really ought to know better. You should report them as spam, and your provider should start weeding them out. Following the CAN-SPAM rules would be smart for them, because that's less likely to get them tagged as spammers and just plain filtered out.

Maybe you need a different provider. As far as I'm concerned, Google has solved the spam problem, at least to a tolerable level. I'm sure others have as well.

altdataseller 2 days ago

Mark them as spam and it will affect their deliverability rates

I highly doubt any agency will enforce violations since there would be thousands of companies in violation